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MessagePosté le: 05/11/2012 18:11:04    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

The Scratch builders guild presents:



Premise: A scratch builders proxy race for “pretty” rather than “fast”.
Build a Sports or Grand Prix slot car using nothing more than what was available in the local hobby shop about January 1965. Hand-carved wood bodies were very popular up to 1964, as model car companies had not yet ventured far into the sports car field. If you wanted to build a racer of a 1955 Allard, you had to carve the body yourself and mount it on a scratch built chassis.
So that is what we are doing here. And while there ultimately will be a “race”, the emphasis is on scale looks and period authenticity. A points system will determine the eventual winner.

Proposed race date sometime in March and April.

Two races to be held in the U.S. and two in the U.K. (TBA and looking for picturesque looking tracks.) Update: First race to be held at Pelican Park Raceway! (confirmed)

Official Rules
1. Hand carved original wood bodies only. Any type of wood allowed, example: Balsa, Pine and Basswood/Lime.

2. Details can be either hand made from brass, aluminum, resin, plastic or sourced from static model or slot car kits. (Steering wheels, windshield, head and taillights, gas cap, wheel inserts.)

3. Subject matter is: open-top sports cars/GT cars and G.P. cars 1949 to 1960. Race markings are required with minimum of two numbers on the sides. Please register your numbers beforehand so we won’t have multiples, as that is how the cars will be called out in the race report. We will split the cars into classes depending on how many entries are received. But I do not see a problem racing GP cars with Sports cars. The registration thread is here on Slot Forum: http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66009

4. Motors are limited to open frame Pittman/Kemtron style with two exceptions made for Bonner and K&B Challenger. A complete motor list is attached below. If your motor is not listed, then please ask the committee before entering. No can-motors allowed in this proxy! There are plenty of races for can motors and sealed Chinese motors.
Motor modifications are limited to what was modified during the period, ie: bearings, balancing, rewinding, magnet zapping, removing the rear axle support arms, etc. But no Neo magnets allowed! Let’s all keep that same old block of crap in there and have fun.
Not listed but also allowed are: Atlas AT206/208 and the Pittman DC-196B.

5. Chassis are pretty much open to anything that was built back in 1964 and lots of ideas were tried. Brass rod and brass tube space frames were pretty much the standard. However, full belly pans were starting to become popular as well, so either or a combination of both are good for this race. Factory produced chassis parts are also acceptable as long as they are period correct, example: Kemtron, K&B, Echo.
Drop arms legal but no body movement allowed! This is not a D3 retro race. It is a throw back to a hobby of an era gone by. So please stay in the spirit of the era and that eliminates any “Jail-door” or “floppy plate” chassis design.
That said… working steering, suspension; a differential, 4-wheel drive, two motors, sidewinder, and in-line are all deemed fair game.
One has only to open the pages of any Model Car Science from 1963-64 and you will see articles on building features such as these. So innovation and engineering encouraged, as long as it is in the spirit of the era.
Acceptable chassis examples:




6. Wheels should be vintage threaded, taper-lock or set screw. Repops are allowed if they are close replicas. (Example: the Russkit reproductions currently available @ Professor Motor and Electric Dreams.) Vintage Dynamic, Buzco and Riggen cast wheels are also legal provided the casting matches the car. Inserts required on plain disc wheels and they should match the style and era of the car.

7. Tires to be vintage rubber or reproduction rubber scaled correctly to the car on which to be mounted. (Example Lotus 19 will have much smaller tires than will a Maserati 300S). Ortmann is an excellent source, and No foam or silicone tires allowed.

8. Driver figure required.

9. Guides are to be 1/8” post or 3/16” post “screw braid guides” only. No clip-in-braids! Please keep the lead wires to only one positive and one negative lead wire. Electric Dreams has vintage Champion “superflex” wire so keep it as vintage looking as possible.

10. Gears as vintage as possible. The most popularly used of the era were the bronze bevel gears made by MRRC, K&B, Atlas, Tradeship. No Pink Parma gears allowed or you will be mocked mercilessly I assure you!

11. Classes for 1/24th and 1/32nd scale racing. But all will compete together in concours d'elegance phase.

12. Concours d’elegance will be broken down into “best paint”, “most realistic/authentic”, and “best chassis”.

13. Entry fee: Is unknown as yet but will be only enough to cover postage between the tracks and postage for the return trip home. T-shirts will be available for all entrants, design to be announced soon as I come up with one.

14. The committee reserves the right to add updates to this post as they happen. But, it won't hurt much.




Period motors example are shown in this MC&T magazine article.








Okay, I was going to post this in French using Google Translate, but got lazy. Hope you guys don't mind translating it yourselves.
Also, Anyone interested in taking part in this proxy race, Don Siegel is one of the rules Committee members and he lives in France! So you could contact him through Slot Forum for rule clarity.
I will try to keep this thread updated and hopefully Régis will help me keep contact.
Thus far we have 23 entries being built in two scales, most of the entries are from SlotForum!
Wink
Discussion of this is now two weeks along and both threads can be read here:
Slot Forum http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=65879
Slot Blog http://slotblog.net/topic/38876-good-wood-revival-proxy-work-in-progress/

Good luck!

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MessagePosté le: 05/11/2012 19:50:31    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

What a great idea!

- At least beautiful vintage cars or alike in a proxy race!

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MessagePosté le: 05/11/2012 20:09:13    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

Oué, c'est pas en France qu'on aurait des proxy pareilles... RollingEyes

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MessagePosté le: 05/11/2012 20:19:07    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

If you have a beautiful track then I am listening! Still looking for tracks in Europe.

That is Pelican Park Speedway, which will be our first race!

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 00:00:06    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

Très belle idée ce Good Wood. Okay

Faut inscrire Régis de force, c'est fait pour lui Mr Green Mr Green

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 00:36:10    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

I saw the announcement of this proxy on Slotblog, Jairus, and I really find it exciting Okay

Maybe some members here might be interested in the challenge...?
I know at least one who is already planned, and not really the worst of us


Attila a écrit:
Très belle idée ce Good Wood. Okay

Faut inscrire Régis de force, c'est fait pour lui Mr Green Mr Green


C'est pas faux Matthieu... mais je crois qu'il fait déjà partie des premiers inscrits

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 12:05:51    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

En effet - comme Régis participe régulièrement à SlotBlog, il s'est déjà manifesté, et à mon avis, il s'attaque déjà au Balsa (ou autre bois...).

N'hésitez pas à me poser des questions, et si vous pensez que ça serait utile de traduire le règlement, je peut faire ça aussi (si un vrai Frenchy passe derrière pour corriger mon français!)

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 14:28:34    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

Y a Nicolaslot, il voulait juste savoir si on pouvait etre en retard.... Mr Green Sinon, ça l'interesse pas.........


Si c'est toujours les mêmes qui gagnent, y'a jamais de revanche.
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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 14:39:44    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

Bagnole en bois, bien sur que ça m'intéresse, mais t'as raison, les délais, ça risque de faire juste... RollingEyes

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 14:48:21    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

don.siegel a écrit:
(...) si vous pensez que ça serait utile de traduire le règlement, je peut faire ça aussi (si un vrai Frenchy passe derrière pour corriger mon français!)

Don


Bonne idée Don, je veux bien m'y coller Okay



Où est-ce que j'ai foutu ma baguette et mon béret, moi ?...

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 19:26:47    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

don.siegel a écrit:
En effet - comme Régis participe régulièrement à SlotBlog, il s'est déjà manifesté, et à mon avis, il s'attaque déjà au Balsa (ou autre bois...).

N'hésitez pas à me poser des questions, et si vous pensez que ça serait utile de traduire le règlement, je peut faire ça aussi (si un vrai Frenchy passe derrière pour corriger mon français!)

Don

Thanks Don!

Well, I finally got started on my build.
Going with a Maserati 250F as driven to victory by Juan Manuel Fangio in the Nürburgring GP race 1957.


But first I need a plan.

The plans I downloaded from VSRN and were published in some model magazine about February '59.
http://www.vsrnonline.com/Mags/MM/MM_Plans_1.htm

Okay now, time to start playing with the wood.
Using a sheet of 1/16" Basswood a profile of the floor and two key bulkheads are cut out. The profile is actually 1/4" off the bottom of the car due to the pan roll.

Then blocks of balsa are glued to the pan along with the two bulkheads.

After an evening of sanding the body is getting close.


Underneath we have Basswood rails (3/16") tying the fore and aft together like a spar holds the wings on an airplane.
This also provides a hard-point to screw the chassis to the body securely.

Onward... Cool

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 20:05:57    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

Ah ben oui, la forcément, ça donne envie...

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 20:12:38    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

Après tout, Nicolaslot, le bois ou le métal, même combat, ou presque...

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 20:15:59    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

On verra ça une fois qu'on aura lu le règlement...

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MessagePosté le: 06/11/2012 20:17:25    Sujet du message: Good Wood Revival Proxy Répondre en citant

Y sera en retard............


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